John Mosley: Decorated Educator, Master of the Craft, Architect of the Culture

Uh, I remember you started you started cutting Kendrick too. Like what was what like cuz I know that y'all are all around in that same area. Like how did that come about?

So Kendrick had so Dave Free Kendrick's manager.

Okay.

Um and his Dave best friend was Don. They lived in Paramont. I was cutting Don hair. Don brought Dave to me and Dave and Don used to have this thing called Real Talk Tuesday where they just jump on Facebook live go crazy and then get off. And so Dave brought JRock to me. Then JRock brought Kendrick to me. And then Kendrick and Dave and everybody else brought Top to me. And then it was then it opened up the door a little bit for School Boy. And then I was at that I was running, you know. Welcome to the Barberstar podcast brought to you by Suprea hosted by the Marcus Harvey. This is where game gets passed, not gatekeep. Suprea is the freshest the world's ever been.

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So, of course, we got to talk to one of those guys who is a star, who's a barber in our community, influencer, celebrity, mastermind, everything from Paul Mitchell to Andis to Kendrick to Charleston White. This man has been all over the spectrum. Paul Mitchell, Vagaro, man, the list goes on, man. That's a popular nobody. You can't be no popular nobody and do all that stuff. Ladies and gentlemen, John Mosley. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Y'all,

what it do, bro?

For you. We usually put like a little cheering in there. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Yeah. No, I feel you.

Yeah. Yeah, man. All right, man. Thank you for jumping on.

You got the little little applause thing.

Yeah. I'm going to get one. I'm going to get one.

You got You got to, bro.

I got to get one. I need to figure this out. I'm going to figure all this computer stuff out.

You see like that?

Oh, look.

Come on now,

man. Listen. You you deep Marcus Harvey, bro. You gotta have that.

You just got hired. You just got hired. You didn't even know it. You just got hired. You got another job on your Now, now you now the representative. Clap applause for Barber. John, what's up with it? What's good with you, brother?

Man, I'm chilling, brother. Fresh out the gym. Uh, you know, getting ready to catch a flight later on.

Okay. You getting you getting summertime fresh or this is just everyday life? This how you just normally get in your zen mode?

Nah, you know, I decided to take a different approach in life. I was tired of being out of shape and breathing heavy and all that. And so I said, "I got to make a change." And then it it helps you more than you think, you know, with your discipline, your mental stability and all of that. So I I just made that switch, bro. I'm going to a different place. So I got to I got to elevate all the way around.

How's that How's that actually been going? Like have you been seeing a difference in your mentality, your mindset as a result of working out?

Yeah, I've definitely seen a difference. Um, you know, I'm not as stressed out. I'm not as like uh on edge. It It just give me a chance to really have a have a moment an hour and a half before my day gets started with my trainer just to just to relax and be with another positive influence.

Okay. So, you got you a trainer. You want to shout your trainer out or you trying to keep it on the low?

Uh no, no, man. My trainer Strat, man, that boy be killing me. I be on the road. He be sending me videos like, "Hey, you got to go get this done." I'm like, "Come on, dog. I'm on the road."

Dang. Speaking of Speaking of the road, what you on the road for? What you got? What you got going on right now?

Uh, today I'm uh fly out to Memphis and I'm going to speak at Paul Mitchell School.

Dang.

This Hey, listen. For y'all who don't know, I'm going always give the uh I'm always going to give the meeting point in which I talk to my all my dope illustrious guests. Uh I think I we met at a Barner Brothers show. Did we meet at a Barner Brothers show or was the LA joint in uh

I think it was something in LA. I think I remember the Curtis Curtis Smith had that uh panel out there. Yep.

" I saw him. And then I started like doing my research and been like, "Oh, this he lying talking about he a nobody. This is a popular somebody. This man is lying, man. " And then I think we just hit it off. And then after that, man, we were able to, you know, share clients here and there and really get some dope things popping. Uh you were able to fill in for some spots for me. You know, I've been able to fill in for some spots for you. It's just been cool. It's it's been a cool relationship and that's what I love about,

you know, uh the camaraderie that we've all have in this industry, man. So, uh I I remember that specifically meeting you from there. Now,

I was at the White Background. I think Brandy was out there. Curtis was out there. It was just a star set.

It was a star set of joint. It was just a dope dope situation, man. Hey, so first question, man. Like I like to start it off by this uh thing we call Bit by the Clippers. You know how the Clippers used to bite you back in the day? Uh

but that for barbers has always been the thing that ignites them into becoming a barber. So how did you even embark on your journey in becoming a barber? Um

so a lot of people don't know my family history inside the beauty space. you know, my mother Doris Mosley, my sister, uh, Lily, and then my sister Ann. They, you know, my sister Ann is a esthetician, uh, Mike Blader, all of like all of that that deals with the skin. Um, that's my sister Ann. My sister Lily actually works on sets. She castles for so many years. She just finished the Michael Jackson project. Um, so it it my family history is beauty. And and then, you know, I jumped into the barbering space. You know, be different. I didn't want to be the salmon that swim the same way. So, I jumped into the barbering space and and that's literally how we got into it.

Our mom prepped and bred educators and them pops just was a photographer. So, I think and he works on the railroad. So, for me, it was like that's I got that balance from both of them.

Yeah. It sounds like you've always uh something that Jamie Fox said a long time ago was like when he was talking about the role for Ray and the role for uh Any Given Sunday specifically, he was talking about he was always given tools to be able to perform at the maximum time when his when the when the when it was open for him to show it. You know what I'm saying? So he played quarterback in high school and randomly any given Sunday comes up and he's able to be the only actor who can really throw and looks like a quarterback. You know,

Willie Beaman. Willie Beam, you know, Steaming, they keep the ladies and co. Come on, man. You all right? Don't stop me. Okay. Your mom, let's talk about that. So, your mom and your dad are photo your dad's a photographer. Your mom is in the hair space. Like, what did she do? What did she do specifically? Give us some like history about your mom.

So, my mother, Doris Mosley, she uh she came up in the in the beginning parts of this where, you know, it's funny. Now, we call her like the I call her like the Oprah Winfrey of hair, you know what I mean? But, you know, she worked with Dudley Products, Kazoui, and like all them old school black brands that was building. She, you know, friends with the Bronners. Um, and so she, you know, moved to LA and was on welfare and all of that. " And she said that she was always felt as a kid that she wasn't beautiful enough. And her mother told her she was too ugly. So she moved to LA, started beauty school to find her purpose and find her beauty.

And so in that she started to do hair and ended up loving it. And then she got into like got moved and got motion. And then she opened up a salon called ABS, another beauty salon. And then my sister got into it coming out of high school. And then when my sister graduated high school, she studied at Vidal Sassoon in London.

Yeah. My mom sent her to London to study at Vidal Sassoon. And so she came back and was competing and doing all of that. And so my mom just, you know, product line, hair show, you know, and and so it was like it's just embedded in us. It's like our family is straight beauty. So that's why when people wonder why I take it so serious, it's like [ __ ] I grew up with this. Like I I know what it was like before the Instagram and before Tik Tok and be before all of that. when when educators really was educating and putting on shows like and that's I put a I put a clip up not too long ago and said what's missing from hair shows and I said shows

you know what I mean the show was missing out of the show so

the spectacularness of it the

agitry you know what I'm saying like so you you pretty much can stark out this mug you was raising you was raised in the hair dope game man you out here

that's dope man like so give me give me a a um a a memory of accompanying your mom to one of these hair shows because I see how you move and as you just said, as you just mentioned before, you're very serious about this this hair game. Give me the moment in your memory that you can remember when you went with your mother and you kind of felt that like charge to be like, yo, this is something I want to do.

Bro, I never had that feeling.

Word.

Yeah. No, I've never had like me being a barber was a complete accident. Um, it was

What did you want to be before?

Uh, man, I went through so much [ __ ] Like I wanted to be an architect. I wanted to be uh I wanted to work with fiber optics. I wanted to do uh computer graphics and stuff like that. And so um I was playing college football

and I got tired of getting hit by grown men for free.

Come on, man.

And so I literally halfway through the season, I just decorated my locker like a shrine, like a Hall of Fame shrine and never returned. " And I was like, "Mom, you know what? " But I was really trying to buy myself time thinking she was going to be happy with me making that decision. And I was like, "Okay, cool. " And then 3 days later, I was enrolled in barber school. And I hated it for like the first 6 months. And then once I once I showed my mom some of my work, she was like, "You know what? " And then once that happened, that conversation happened, I just turned up.

You turned up. How so how old were you around that time?

Uh 20. Okay. Where'd you go to college?

Uh Barber College or college?

Yeah. Getting hit for free and then getting getting hit. Yeah.

Uh I was at uh Orange Coast Community College in Huntington Beach, California. And then uh Barber College. I went to a small college in Long Beach. I don't like saying their names cuz how they treated me when I was there. But

they hate you. They hate you.

Yeah.

God. Hey.

But shout out my instructor. I had two dope ass instructors, Mr. Tom and Mo. So, I say they names, but the school itself. Yeah. N

what you what did you learn from Tom and what' you learn from Mo?

Uh Tom was a a a Hispanic cat, laidback, chill. You know, he would he was the type of instructor that'll let you sink and then come over and and put the holes back in, you know, fix the holes in your boat to show you how to get out of those jams. So, I learned that from Tom and just how to stay calm, cool, even when I'm educating. That's what you see. And then for Mo, Mo was more of the the the younger instructor teaching us how to flick that wrist and how to, you know, navigate the clipper a little bit different with the comb and all of that. So Tom was old school clipper over comb guy, you know, magic hand like just show you what to do when you need it.

But Mo was the one in the trenches and was like, "This is how you going this how you going to get that half blend. "

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It shows a good balance of both. So you so your mom so your mom you show your mom you know some of your work and she's like yo she puts a little bit more of a battery in your back and you start really going like

uh what's that process like you start turning up like you start going a little harder in class in school what you start what changed

um my effort my effort changed you know I was showing up to school with a different energy and um and and at that time you had to have 750 haircuts to graduate school I finished with over 2000

word.

So that that that it was really that practice where you want to be, not where you at. And I was practicing for where I was going to go. And I didn't know where I was going at the time, but I just knew when I came out the gate, I had to be ready to go, you know. And so that's that's what I did. And I fell in love with it. The school didn't want me to cut no more hair cuz I was cutting too many people. I worked, man, my back was up against the vending machine. I was cutting in the back back of the school. And I'm like, yeah. So I had to work my way He was a lineman, too. So, you weren't mad at that. You You was like,

"Yeah." Yeah. Let me get a snack.

I know. I know what it was. I know what it was, too. They used to call me Bookman back in the day in my barber shop.

They used to be They used to roast my little fat ass. They were like, "Hey, man. What you trying to do, Booger?" But, you ain't trying to work. You ain't trying to do work, Buffalo. So, they they owe me, bro. They

Yeah. N you know, it it come with the territory. If you ain't in a barber shop like that, people so sensitive now, man. But

that's what built character in the barber shop. That's what really that's where the movie came from, you know, is the character, the feeling that the community get when they come into the shop. They want to come see

us, you know, we the stars of the show. And so that's that's the that's the mentality I always got. That's why you when you see me on stage, I take I take the barber shop to the stage.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So, we fast forward, you know, you you finish with 2,000 haircuts. What's the next move that you making in that spot? Like, are you like uh working in the shop with your mom or are you like what you doing? you found your own shop or you like, "Yo, I'm about to go and spread my own weeds, find my own block." You know what I'm saying?

So, it's funny funny. My mom's shop was in Englewood, California.

Okay.

And and her shop was right next door to John Burgundy shop.

Say word.

Yeah. So, so John wanted me to come work at his shop coming out of school.

Okay. And I just at the time I don't know what happened but I I chose to stay back in the city and I worked back in Long Beach and I went to Premier Hair Stylist and um you know at the time Premiere it was only two real barber shops in Long Beach at the time that was making noise. You was either going to Mr. Baker or you was going to Premiere. And so I went over to Premiere and met with the owner and I just told him like, "Look, bro, I'm never going to leave your shop until I'm making a a Ford Progress decision." And [ __ ] I stayed there my whole career.

Damn, that's what's up, man. So then, okay, you in the shop and yeah, you you you know the ins and outs of like um sponsorship through, you know, the family history. like when did you start like making noise and start partnering with people like you know Paul Mitchell Salon Centrics and it's regaro like how like what was your first what was your first like partnership?

Um my first partnership was with actually I didn't even feather razor your top

feather razor okay

yeah that was my first partnership I used to teach a it was called the $500 shave and that was like one of my first educational like

let me tell you I know you you big stuff cuz you like yeah it's like the $500 shave your ass up, man.

What year was it that you was charging [ __ ] $500 for a shave?

Nah, it's See, that was the play. That was I was a marketing genius before even people met me. The $500 shave was to get your ass to come to that class. Right.

Gotcha.

It's the experience that comes with the razor, the experience that come with understanding how to shave properly. So that so you could charge $500 if people wanted to pay it at the time, but it was really more so a marketing play on getting people to understand the quality of the shade, but also the quality of the product.

Word. And this is uh something that you developed at that time like the the whole process they they came to you and you like this how we can collab in in a sense?

100%. 100%. And then um you know they was out of Buena Park, California. So it was literally like 20 30 minutes from where I was and I just built a relationship with them and and that's how it happened and then you know that's my bow tie days and [ __ ]

Yeah. Hey, I got a picture of that. I'm about

No, don't do that one. I

already threw the picture of it. You you don't even listen this part. We threw the picture right now. Boom. Right through the bow tie like that. I saw your ass. I saw your ass.

Yeah, man. So that was that. That was So that was that. And then um so Feather was the first opportunity that I got, but at the time my chili was already getting hot, you know what I mean? I was cutting Terry Kennedy, the black skateboarder out of Long Beach,

Ral Denton, you know, he was a skateboarder for Element. So I was already kind of like getting that motion going and then um and then the phone just started ringing and I got a I got a phone call from a lady named Yolanda Johnson one day and she asked me would I be available. It was like a the the date was like 3 months from the time we talked and I was like yeah for sure like who knows what the hell

and I just said yeah and it ended up being for Celebrity Fit Club

word.

So I was the barber for Celebrity Fit Club for six seasons on the low. That was before Instagram and all that. So you know

see look see you young barbers don't know nothing man. We been doing stuff before there was a gram before there was a YouTube before there was a all that stuff. It was just come to the shows, word of mouth. Facebook was going off crazy back then, but it wasn't on the level of like interacting with somebody like this, you know? You weren't like, you know, putting together you was just having to admire somebody from a distance, man. So, Celebrity Fit Club, that was crazy. So, like who who the all the people that you were cutting on there?

Warren G, Bazaar, the the sergeant.

Um, Dr. Ian.

Yeah.

Uh, all of like So, I was I was cutting all the guys. Yeah.

So, I was cutting all the guys and um so I did that for six seasons and then I went over to Celebrity Rap Superstar.

Okay.

And then I started cutting over there. Um and then from that that only I think that lasted like one season. That [ __ ] was trash.

In and out you and Aiden Skate.

It was a horrible horrible show.

That's when the beginning that's that's around the beginning of reality shows too.

And that was literally like the beginning of reality TV.

Nobody really know what they doing. No, it was just throw some rappers on stage to coach these actors into how to rap and then that was that. Um, and so, you know, I jumped into that and then from there I picked up Idris Ela. Um,

good old Idris. Yeah. Okay, let's let's let's let's slow down right there cuz we going to ask some questions. You get Idris Stringer Bell. You get the good black darkkinned dude in the Tyler Perry movies. You know how rare that is to get a good darkkinned brother in a Tyler Perry movie?

Yeah, man. that ain't going upside somebody head. We love you, Tyler, man. Tyler Pra, best person I've worked with. I ain't going to front. Dest I've worked with. But yeah, man. Like, tell me about Idris, man. Like, cuz I know he was he was a DJ over in London, right? And then

still DJs. Yeah, Idris was probably the Forest Gump of of of black folk. He had a million lives. And then I just kept running. You know, I lived in London. So little dope. So little so little scratching and then do all the little stuff. How did that how did that link up? Tell me how that went.

Um, so the photo the video I mean sorry the barber

that was on celebrity rape superstar with me. His name was Brett. Brett a OG in the game.

I remember. Yeah.

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You know, he cutting everybody at the time. It was like him, Stacy Cousin, a few other, but Brett was quiet. Nobody really knew of Brett. And so, I was on Celebrity Rap Superstar. You know, the OG's, they like, "Shit, we ain't about to work this hard." So, I'm over there. I'm eager beaver. I'm cutting everybody like, "Bro, just put him in the chair. I got him."

And so, he liked my work ethic. And so, um, he couldn't cut Idris for the movie Obsessed.

Okay. Oh, that's why he was a bad a bad guy. He was a bad

So, they gave

almost had the good black guy. We got Okay, it's all good. We like,

yeah, you feel me? So, he Brent passed him over to me and was like, "Yo, can you handle him?" So, I I took care of uh Idris for Celebrity Rap I mean um Obsessed. And then the British GQ magazine, I got him for that and a few other things. And then Brett passed me Ice Cube. So for like Ice Cube Cors Light commercials and stuff like that, Brett shot me the love for that. And so

Ice Cube. Yeah. You know what I mean? So

Idris with Idris like um so with Obsessed that's that's the movie with Beyonce in that joint too, right? Okay. Why you got to say it like that? Yeah.

Yeah, man.

Yeah. You know it.

Cowboy Carter.

Woo. You already know.

Yeah.

All right. So let me ask you this. Okay. as you're uh give me some of those experiences like man what was that what were those conversations like with Idris you know he's I know that he's a very eccentric person is he somebody who's like a very talkative is he somebody who like drops gyms like like how how did that rapport go

um honestly man Idris is probably one of the top celebrities that I worked with as far as how he take care of his team how he looked after his people um we used to talk crap to each other and play FIFA soccer you know what I mean on PlayStation and stuff like that like he was He he's a real genuine dude, you know, and yeah, you know, he'll talk, you know, talk to you if you, you know, close enough to him. And so, yeah, I like with all my clients, man, I try to become more than just a barber because to me, it's like you want to you want to dive into who they are as people because they need friends, too. You know what I mean?

So, it ain't always about just serving them as a barber, but more so like, yo, like even still to this day, some of my clients, I just text them and be like, "Hey, man. I hope you're doing good. keep being great, you know, or how you feeling, how the kids, how the wife, like, you know, just because it it's bigger than that. And I don't want to take to me that's a part of the barberhop element that lose out when you become a celebrity barber or celebrity stylist sometimes.

Dive into that. dive into that right there because I think a lot of um barbers don't get to see they they see all the dope things about being a celebrity barber and then some of them might try to find you know imaginary things to be like I don't even want to be a celebrity barber cuz you know celebrities make you do this like give a real like give a real indepth uh thought process of like the difference between being a celebrity barber and a barber who's a celebrity in a shop like give me the two different dynamics of those

um I think the dynamic of being a barber in the shop being that celebrity in the shop, the community is coming to you. You know, people are coming to you. They're they're they're expecting you to be there. They rely on your conversation. They rely on your leadership. And sometimes it's like when a kid is not doing right, the parents rely on us to have a conversation from the kid uh to the kid. You know what I mean? So, it's a little different there. And what you see on TV when you working with celebrities, sometime that ain't even our best work. That's just what we got to do. You know what I mean? like we we got to have this word called continuity.

We don't want to do the same damn haircut for 8 weeks straight, but we got to do it. And you know, and I think that that element of feeling the love when your people come into the shop is lost when you're working on set because it's like the celebrity deal with so much. So then you got to monitor their energy. If they don't want to talk, you got to make sure you not talking to them. And it's so many different variables, but for me, it was more or less like, let me get cool with this dude. Not because he a celebrity and because you know I could gain something from him.

It was more or less let me get cool with him just so I could talk to him human to human man to man or you know even if it was a female client of mine.

So I mean you you getting amazing clients like that uh like Idris and you're doing a lot of sets. Uh I remember you started you started cutting Kendrick too. Like what was what like cuz I know that y'all are all around in that same area. Like how did that come about? So Kendrick had so Dave Free Kendrick's manager.

Okay.

Um and his Dave best friend was Don. They lived in Parammont. I was cutting Don hair. Don brought Dave to me. And Dave and Don used to have this thing called Real Talk Tuesday where they just jump on Facebook live go crazy and then get off. And so Dave brought JRock to me. Then JRock brought Kendrick to me. And then Kendrick and Dave and everybody else brought Top to me. And then it was then it opened up the door a little bit for school boy and then I was at that I was running you know um that's that's literally how that happened bro just taking baby steps and working each client each relationship and it just opened up as many doors as possible.

What's that like seeing uh somebody go from, hey, just a a regular rapper to a global icon over some time? And even like just going from a, you know, a label that might have two or three amazing artists to like growing to something that's just, you know, outstanding and and historic. You know what I'm saying?

You know, it it's actually u it's a blessing. I feel like so many young barbers don't understand that when you work around greatness, you you could tell who's gonna be a great and who gonna be around for a long time. So then you got to have different type of conversations with them because if you're trying to elevate and grow, those are the guys you want to talk to. Those are the ladies you want to talk to. And so I spent a lot of time with Kendrick just talking, you know. I knew diss records that he was going to put out before they even came out or if they never did come out. " you know, and we would go back and listen to stuff and just have real heartful conversations as men.

But I I spent that time with Kendrick and I learned how to, you know, do certain things. I watched them go from small venue stages to club stages to then I watched him walk rocking arenas and and all of this. So to be a part of that, it taught me how to rock a stage. And I went to I went and I spoke with Kendrick u on his Mr. Morale Mr. Big Steppers tour.

Yeah.

I flew to Nashville and uh

and and hung out and I talked to him and I thanked him. I thanked him for the opportunity he gave me. I thanked him for allowing me to be great with him and allowing me to to see what quality leadership is like when you get into a into a certain space. And I told him he taught me a lot. And I told him that the reason why I won my Naha award was partways because how I got to sit back and watch him and and you know just having like that kind of [ __ ] man I think barbers lost that element. Like if you sitting around greatness for so many years

Oh many years bro

what the hell are you doing not being great?

How you not great?

Yeah.

How you not great man?

Yeah great.

Yeah. you know, and that's what I that's so to be able to be a part of that growth. Um, and and that element was [ __ ] phenomenal, bro. Like, it was phenomenal to see it. I still, you know, if Drake called me to cut his hair today, I wouldn't do it cuz my loyalty that good, you know, with and and even though I'm not Kendrick's Barber anymore, but it's just the the the relationship we built, I still hold that dear and near to my heart.

It's for life all the time, man. when you have when you have that type of kinship with those guys

and you seen their growth as you even seen from the beginning

that's something that's different than a lot of other barbers you know you know I got I got it with Nas when he was already Nas you know what I'm saying so to

you know be able to see somebody when they're like okay like you said they're in a club venue then they're in a theater then they're in a then they're rocking a you know a 5,000 seater now they in arenas you know it's like what now this man's in stadiums it's like get out of here like doing two shows in Toronto for no reason. That That's

Yeah. No, it was for a reason.

Y'all petty. I'm just Cali News is petty. Y

It was for a reason, bro.

Hey, man. So, okay. So, you know, now you've been doing a lot of celebrities. You uh you're able to kind of grow, you know, your brand in that way. Now, we start moving into Popular Nobody. Like, how did the Popular Nobody uh birth? Like, what was the birth process of that? So, I started out as the barber JM,

you know. Um, and first of all, let's back up real quick.

Okay, back up.

Yeah, let's back up. Uh-oh. Truck this real quick. I gotta dump something off.

Yeah,

you threw me a lob to market uh to Nas. I cut Nas and that opened up the door for me to work with Bevel and different companies as well, you know. So, I appreciate that lob you gave me. Uh, I feel like one of my most iconic haircut pictures was Onas, you know what I mean? And and a lot of people don't know them hands was they serious when it's time to be serious, you know.

So I appreciate that. Um and now we could close the U-Haul and and get back on the road.

Hey, man. And I think that's something dope that you just did too. Like it shows us like this is how us as OG's like connect and we show love. Like a like I'm thankful that you were able to get Nas right for that. You know what I'm saying? Because I knew it was a big deal. I knew I couldn't get out there, but I knew I it had to be somebody on a level of one, I'm gonna do my job and I'm gonna make sure that I'm tight. You know, I ain't gonna be trying to go behind your back on no other stuff if you need me. You know, cuz we had already talked about what happened to the other person.

So, just to see how and so like that's why anytime I know somebody's in Dallas now, I'll be sending them to you. anytime I know somebody's in, you know, uh, if you're wherever you're at, I'm trying to figure out where you kind of type of people are because the people that have shown me love, I shown love, too. You know, it's just a it's a it's trust transferred as as uh Kenny Duncan has said, trust.

Vietnam, it was it was literally the conversation and and I think people need to hear how this works. The conversation was, you know, the last guy was taking photos and doing this and doing that and I'm like, man, I ain't even about that life. you know what I mean? Like

when it's time for the work to be shown, the work gonna be shown no matter what cuz it's gonna be good. And so I went into it,

we didn't even have to have that conversation because I know what it's like to work with these type of celebrities, you know what I mean? And so um I always kept it G like that. But even when my number was requested by Nas and his people,

I told they got to go through you. And I think that part of the element is lost where it's like [ __ ] be trying to scheme on people and slimeball them so bad that it's like nah man if you if you want my services your original barber got to give you the okay to come to me or your original barber got to come tell me it's okay to take this job. But I I think a lot of that is lost because everybody trying to just post on the ground and show I cut such and such or they trying to brag. Who gives a [ __ ] bro? At the end of the day you could be replaced too. But then how do you handle your business? And that's why, you know, like you said, you you can vouch.

When my number was asked for, I never slid my number. "

Yeah.

And and he will get in contact with me to tell me it's okay to move this way.

What do you think of some of the things that have been lost in Not I'm not trying to, you know, we OG's I ain't trying to diss the new generation. I'm just trying to allow the new new generation to really be able to enjoy the fruits of their labor and the fruits of relationships and relationship pruning. You know what I'm saying? I think that that sometimes it it gets lost now. It's like, yo, every man for himself. But as we can see right now, man, things are starting to shift and change. like give give us some some nuggets on what you think like we where we should be going as a barber community.

Um first of all um there's a difference between influencer and educator. So that's number one. You know what I mean? And then number two is that the old heads are OG's got to listen to the young ones. And the young ones got to be open and and be willing to listen to the OG's as well because we both have, you know, valuable game to give each other. And I think a lot of people don't understand that. Um it's we have to move with professionalism in that space. Everybody don't. Most of my clients ain't even on the internet, you know, or if they are on the internet, they just scrolling and looking.

But I don't I think when you go to somebody's space and you putting them on the internet, taking a picture with them, broadcasting text messages from them, that [ __ ] lame. And it's like, young barbers, please stop doing that, man. You you [ __ ] up the professionalism. Like, there's no professionalism, I feel, really in our game no more. There's no honor uh in what we do no more. There's no respect in what we do no more. Like everybody trying to be cutthroat, bro. And at the end of the day, like for what? You going to lose your job at one point too. So

yeah,

you I always say, bro, it's certain people that have certain things like for for instance yourself, you was with Nas for you traveled with Nas, you know, John Burgundy travels with Kevin Hart, I was with Kendrick, you know, um it's it's certain guys that really have celebrity status, not because they cutting one offs, two offs, when the guy's in your city, he hot, and you you there cuz somebody else made a phone call for you. " A lot of people don't even understand that side of it, bro. So, it's like the younger guys got to understand that. They got to get with the OGs of this [ __ ] to really understand how to protect their self and do business the right way.

And then the OG's got to be willing to show them, you know? So, I'm I'm big and if you notice, I'm big on mentorships, man. I done I done mentored so many people in this game because it's like we pose to and I I always look at like people complain about the community but don't even get their ass in the community. So it's the same thing in this industry like how you going to ask for change and you not being a part of it.

Say a word. Come on now. You about to get on the Where's your soap box at? Where the organ at?

Piece of passion.

Come on, man. That's what it is, man. We talking about the passion.

Old school [ __ ] don't know. Them young boys don't know nothing about that.

But uh yeah, man. So, speaking of being passionate about, and you brought this up, there's a difference between an influencer and an educator. And bro, you've won Barbercon Educator of the Year, Barber of the Year. You've won NAH A Educator of the Year. You've won icon community award. You've won OG Barber of the year. You've won educator of the year. Shoot. This year you won educator of the year at Barbercon. Shoot. Martin Salon. What? Top 100, bro. You got all these type of things going on. Like you see how he gets he starts getting in the seat. Yeah. You know,

you know it's motion, bro. So like man like how tell me about that type of motion and like now being recognized as one of the best to ever do education in the barber space like did you when you first started doing education was this your goal? How how did you even get to this to be your goal? How did who who helped you come along to be a educator as your you know as yourself?

Um so my mother put me on stage first. It always go back to the originals.

Yeah.

My mother put me on Yeah. She put me on the stage first and then I realized like I got a gift to to teach people and then I started honing in on my cla my craft and then I took a class from Rodri Samuels that's big bro you know took a class from Rodri and he had this thing called edutainment and I was like damn I like that and so I just adapted edertainment and that's what I call my education and he still call it that as well but it's just a concept behind entertaining people to get them to understand the message and so when I'm on these platforms when I'm on stage, I'm making you laugh. I'm making you have fun, but I'm also making you remember what I got to deliver.

And then I just broadened my spectrum, you know, um to open up to teaching all kind of classes. Like 2 weeks ago, I was in Orlando Premiere. I taught eight classes in two days and I taught everything from color to business to branding to marketing to cutting to styling, a hands-on class. So, you open up that market. It ain't just about a fade. And that's what people get wrong sometimes. And the influencers are stuck on fading. But a educator is stuck on the process of why you do what you do, how you do what you do, and then you tell people and share what you know from what you've been able to accomplish and do. And so that's literally how how it navigated and happened.

And then all the brands started to pick me up. A lot of people don't know I wrote Paul Mitchell's barbering curriculum for their whole company. You know what I mean? So it's just not

I took my hat off, but I ain't got no cut. How about two?

But you know,

you know what I mean? So it it it's bigger than what you see me do on stage. A lot of the work is done behind the scenes. Like in my cell phone, I got eight classes right now that I could pull up a keynote presentation for and teach off the cuff because I I practice my routine. I know things. I I train like a comedian. I write certain oneliners. I do certain things. I've been practicing with a camera in my face before I even had a platform to do so. So when people see me on stage and they're like, "Damn, bro, you like a natural cuz I practice this [ __ ] bro."

Yeah.

You know what I mean? And so winning Naha um North America Hairdressing Award, right? That Naha

I won. Yeah. Right. So North America, North America Hairdressers Associate, PBA said, "This is the best guy." And I was the first barber to win it ever, first black man to win it ever. But then the funny thing is my brother Rodick Samuels went the next year behind me and won and two another barber.

And that's crazy that he that Rodri Samuels gets to have that type of um amazing life because his menty wins it and then hit the following year. It's like I just proved I proved it to you guys. This is why I'm who I am. I just made last year's guy this guy. You know what I'm saying? So that's dope that you even showing, you know, passing homage to your to your OGs because that's something that is missing. And it's like there's nothing that that doesn't take anything away from you by you describing it. Only it only verifies you even more when you're able to say, "No, I come from this type of cloth. " You know what I'm saying? Like my my my mentors have been running schools.

My mentors have been, you know, doing curriculum. They showed me how to write curriculum. Speaking of curriculum, man, like how does one come into the mindset of starting to like write curriculum for Paul Mitchell? Like what what are like the what are the steps to doing that?

Um, it was an opportunity that was presented to me and and a few others. And just sad to say, like ain't no only cap I got is new era. Um, the others didn't take full advantage of the opportunity. " You know what I mean? And it worked. And now Paul Mitchell is using my brain to to supply the world with new barbers every day. You know what I mean? I still I'm still an ex executive director for six Paul Mitchell barber schools, you know what I mean? So, like I said, people don't even know this. Like, this is still in my back pocket. My my backpack. My back pocket. Like, I'm still doing stuff, you know?

And um the mindset was take what I know and put it on paper, but then I had to structure it a certain way. I had to have people around me to help me structure it a certain way. But um and then I had them come in and film me and ask me what was the tricks that I was doing with my hands and how was I moving my hands in certain things. " That was when that Usher haircut was booming. So I said, "Yo, I want to put this inside this curriculum cuz I feel like, you know, I got to pay homage somewhere. " You know what I mean? So it's like I always I always give back to where it's supposed to be given, you know?

And uh on the other side of that, I just took I just took what I knew, man, and and I I went running and I ain't looked back. And I still ain't looking back. I don't worry about what's going on behind me. I'm just running.

Okay, man. you. Hey, you running? Uh, speaking of running, man, I I hear that you invested some of your own money to do a deal. I was like, okay, big money, dropping money with other big companies to do big company stuff. So, tell us about that that And this partnership.

So, it bro, it was crazy. I heard that, you know, they was like, it ain't never going to happen and this will never do it and this this will never do that. So, I've always had B. Clark customize my clippers. Always.

Yeah. Yeah. D Clark. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, cuz I feel like people take so many photos of our hands and what we doing. So, the easiest way to market is put my logo on the clipper.

Yep.

You know what I mean? Even think even think about that that bevel shoot with Nas.

Yeah.

The Clipper is in there. My hand and my face my face not in there at all.

The clipper was right. And this popular nobody on the Clipper. So, it's like those kind of things that I look at. And so, people was like, "Oh, yeah. It'll never happen. It won't be this. it won't be that. And so I just stuck it out and then I said, "Okay, well I know how to make [ __ ] move. Money make things move, bro." And so when the conversation came back up, they threw me a number that was 30,000.

You had a toothpick in your mouth. What do you 30,000? [ __ ]

N I started praying. What the [ __ ]

No. Heaven, please.

Hey, you know that little girl when she was like, "Shit."

God yeah,

bro. That was me

coming out the walls

trying to figure it out. And so I said, "You know what? You only get you only get one opportunity to be first."

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Like what were some of those things that kind of shaped your mind from that that contract and that collaboration? Like what shaped your mind for the future?

Um what shaped my mind for the future is just how how to continue to move and do business. So when people say you hear music artists say I own my own masters. I really do. You know what I mean?

Yes sir.

They not sold on and website. You could at the time you could only get them through popular nobody.com. You couldn't get them from nowhere else. No beauty supplies. No distributors had it. Just me. And then I deal I I put the deal together and I put all the pieces together. Um 10,000 went to a change is coming scholarship fund out of Dotto, Texas. Um be be Clark. Think about it. Be Clark a barber. A lot of people don't know that, but another barber created the artwork for it. Um,

Clark, he did some of my stuff, too, man.

Yeah.

You know what I mean? So, put be Clark in the mix and, you know, pay paid him and and for his portion of it. And then it was just my marketing brain. You know, I told Andis I didn't want the regular old box no more. So, my box is white. And ain't never did a white box. My my box is white. I put the Gorilla logo on it. um you know, my signature, all of that stuff. And what it did was it it teached it it it taught me how to market in a different arena and go bigger and play bigger, you know, even down to the custom boxes. When you get a Popular Nobody box shipped to you, the tape say Popular Nobody on it.

The box got the gorilla on it because as that package go through the mail, I want people to always go back and look up like, man, what is this Popular Nobody [ __ ] you know, and so I I just I just turned into a different marketing animal. I turned into a different um a different type of business. You know, when you put $30,000 of your own money into something, you going to be like, it can't fail.

You know what I mean? Because it's a you taking food out of your family mouth and you taking a big risk. And so that's that's literally how I looked at it. I'm like, yo, I'mma be a big risk guy to get big reward.

Yeah, that's dope, man. you know, um I see that you even like from Andis, Paul Mitchell, Vagaro, and I know that with Salon Centric, you're doing some great stuff now. What what's going on with them?

So, even just with Vagaro, too. I'll back it up to U-Haul trucker real quick. Shout out to Vagaro. You know, another booking software. I I tell people if you're a chop shop barber shop, you're not ready for Vagaro yet. Vagaro is going to be for the barber that is looking to to really scale their business and really make opportunities happen. Um, and then they they allowed me another part of my vision. You know, I'm I'm passionate about producing and and uh creating. So, we came up with a a series called Shopping where I go to barber shops in the in the community and feature the barber shop, the owner and what they got going on. So, kind of like Yeah.

like dive or drive diving in the diners like that, but in in the barberh shop space. Um, so I've been doing that with Vagaro and just uplifting uplifting and putting the spotlight on places that might not be, you know, spotlighted and then moving forward with Salon Centric. That's a beauty. Uh, that's a blessing. You know, they're L'Oreal. You know, a lot of people don't understand how much L'Oreal own. So, I'm I'm going to challenge everybody listening to this. Just type in, you know, what does L'Oreal own and go see who that partnership is because working with Salon Centric, I'm a part of the It Takes a Pro team.

I get to create content for them and they post the content or I post the content. I get to be on stage at their shows. I host education events for them. And then they also gave me another light where they know my passion and production and all that. They let me host all their shows last year. Instead of just cutting hair, I got to actually host the show, be the MC, provide the energy. So, you know, just playing in those spaces that companies value also what Popular Nobody Vision is.

Yeah. You know, uh, you spoke about being a comedian and one of my favorite comedians, you cut, uh, your boy Charleston White,

you know, we talk about barbershop, we talk about barbershop talk, you know what I'm saying? So, and as we know, Charleston has literally revolutionized barbershop talk on every platform. So, like, what's what's that what's that experience like linking up with like Charleston and like having these type of conversations? What's that experience like? Um, it's funny cuz what everybody think of Charleston White, you got him totally wrong. You know what I mean? He funny as hell.

Yeah, he do. He definitely knows how to break the internet. He knows how to he knows how to play with the algorithm and all of that.

When you talk to him, bro, solid. You know what I mean? He's a solid guy. And one of the first interviews me, him, and his brother did together uh with Antoine Daniels, he like Antoine asked me like, "How do people feel about you working with Charleston?" I said, "Man, people don't need to know, you know, my business and who I work with." And then I was already cutting him before this interview. And so now you see him putting me out there like he just put a video about coming to the comedy club in Atlanta and I was I had cut his hair and I was coloring it and he was talking about, you know, so um it's

and I saw you was I saw y'all were on the um

Barber plug

barber plug joint. Shouts out to the barber plug, man.

Yeah. You know, so it it's it's one of them things like relationships, building that relationship with him. He one of the guys that I send a text to, hey black man, just checking on you. You good? I know it's hected out there on the road. I'm on the road, too. Just boom. You know, so it's his mom called me son. You know what I mean? I'm part of the family. But it's just people people take what they see on the internet from him and go crazy with it. But the brother is

I rock with it. I be I'll be rocking what I'll be rocking with what Charles be talking about. I'm like, you darn right. Forget them babies. [ __ ] them babies. But it's all but he says that to then get you to hear what's coming right behind it.

I've heard I've heard his tactics and I and I really like I see what's going on. Like as you say he he knows how to manipulate the algorithms to be able to get the message out. You know the toxic the toxicity in our community a lot of times like oh you don't see how dumb this is. That's why I'm talking to you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I'm talking to you. You know what I'm saying? Like the old uncle type stuff. You know what I'm saying?

That is for real.

Okay. So, we talked about educators, we talked about influencers. I have a couple more questions and I'm going to let you roll.

For sure. For sure.

Where do you think trends in the hair industry start now? Do you think they start in on social media? Do you think they start on the stage or do you think they start in like classes? Where do you think that it's really being birthed from now?

I think trends all start from social media because we're we're our access to around the world is in our hand when before it wasn't. You had to go to a show to see a trend. You had to really go to an education event to learn a trend. Now, [ __ ] the trend is on the internet, you know,

on the internet.

Um, before, for me as a barber, my trend learning haircuts was coming from soccer. Whatever World Cup was doing, I knew it was coming, you know, or you know, so but now you it's so much creativity and so much motion all around the world that it's it's right there in our in our hands. So, you know, even at the show, I tell people, you know, you're running into the show floor to spend money, but the money is actually made inside the classroom.

Yep.

So, while you running out there to catch a deal, you missing the deal.

You missing a deal cuz you over here trying to spy some deals

100%. And that's how I that's how I look at it.

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All right. Hey, you a hoop you a hooper or a football player? More?

Uh, both. I'm like 50/50.

Okay. All right. So, I like to ask this question. These are the This is the fun part portion of the joint. All right.

So, we Let's go with hooping, right?

Mhm.

John Mosley is the to barbering ass is the basketball.

Oh [ __ ] Um I'm going probably say Kobe and Draymond Green.

Okay. The Kobe and Draymond Green are barbering.

Tell me why. Tell me why. I want to know why.

Cuz Kobe that that mindset, that mentality, you know, like I said, I take this very serious. I eat, sleep, and drink what I do, you know? So that's that mamba mentality. Um I'm going to win. I'm going to, you know, put in the energy and effort. And then the Draymond Green is that so many people take me wrong because of how serious I am. But that's just passion.

That's passion.

You know what I mean? And when you look at Draymond, why is it that everybody like Draymond, but on the court they hate him? It's the passion. He don't Ain't no friends between these lines. And and I I feel like he's very misunderstood when it comes to what people perceive passion and foolishness, you know, and so that's why I say Kobe and Draymond.

Okay. All right. So, next one. Next one. Here we go. You got a five chair shop. You got one You got one of the chairs. Who are the other four barbers?

Damn. Um

and why? And tell me why.

For the other four barbers.

Mhm.

Um well, one is not going to be a barber. It's going to be Stormmy Kelly.

Okay. Uh, she's a Cosmo, but she cut hair with clippers. Everybody thinks she a barber. So, she's not, but I'mma put that in there. Um, the second chair, man, that's hard, man. I got my brother Larry, cuz he going to be the comedian in there. So, you always got to add characters to

You got to have You got to have a comedian in the shop.

Yeah, you got to have a character. Somebody that you could banter back and forth with.

Yeah.

Uh, I like my I like my guy Hawk. I like his energy. I like Brandy.

Okay. So, that's your four chairs right there. Brandy. Yeah, that's your four. Brandy, Larry, Hulk,

and uh and Scott used to Stormy. Yeah, Stormy. Yeah.

Damn. That's my four. It's so many others.

I know. Hey, but that's what it is. Unfortunately, y'all got to wait till somebody leave the shop and then y

But I know one thing I know for sure. We all going to inspire each other. We all going to get money together. We all going to pray and break bread together.

Yep. Yep.

You know what I mean? and we all gonna put out dope ass work and enjoy working with each other.

Come on, man. Hey, man. This has been amazing, bro. I really appreciate you for jumping on, spending some time with me, man. Like, uh, all I had to do is send a DM. He was like, "Hell yeah, man. It's my boy." You know what I'm saying? Uh, hey, man. Tell them what you got coming up. Tell them what you working on, how they could catch you, how they could find you, how they could subscribe to other stuff. Tell them all the stuff, man.

So, uh, you can subscribe to my YouTube channel, Popular Nobody. Um, I'm working on some dope dope podcast stuff right now. So, I'm going to have to we going to have to flip this one on the other side.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with it. I got the podcast coming. Uh, I already got the podcast called Nobody Listens, but I also starting a new one that's more mindset built called the uh Unstoppable Mind. And that's going to be like a little power listen. You know, I just finished I wrote my book called Public Speaking Beyond Words, the art of public speaking from a platform artist perspective. So, I got that up. Um, I'm also building out my online module courses and it's not just haircuting. It's everything. Marketing, branding, business, coaching, um, all of that. Teaching people how to get it, you know, the the real way, the authentic way with no with no money down. You feel me?

Yeah. No money. No, no money, no credit. We got you, baby.

We got you. Come on down to get your car. $700,000 payment, but you all right, baby.

You going to make it.

We going to make it to point A to point B. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. So, I got I got all that going on. Um, and then I'm I'm I'm looking to build out Popular Nobody brand more with more artists

um to come up under the collective um and kind of get this mentorship and guidance to continue to serve purpose in the industry and leave my legacy in a different way. So, I got that going on and then uh yeah, just just all of that, man. Just just hella motion, you know. Just hella motion. Just Instagram popular nobody. YouTube popular nobody. Uh, your mama's house. Popular nobody Facebook.

Tell about the mama's house cuz hey, here's why Draymond Green y'all. He coming from my house. He coming mama house.

You know what? You didn't ask me about my football player, but the football player is Marshawn Lynch.

Oo, cuz what they going to do when you keep hitting him in the mouth. You know what I'm saying?

Keep running through it, [ __ ] Yeah, you running through it, [ __ ] You going to need to stop. Yeah, that's what it is.

Marsh Lynch, man. When you Lynch and when you see my personality, you know, I walk in the building, I bring energy. I'm having fun and I'm always going to be me. And I think that's why people love me in this industry because you know love me or hate me at the end of the day. You got to respect it. Just whatever you want to call me, put Mister in front of it.

Yeah. Mr.

Mr. Successful [ __ ] Mr. Successful son of a [ __ ] Just Mr. Successful. Please put that in there.

Hey, they already they already got it in there. They got all the accolades. So they already put that in there. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, man. You know,

and put and put educator of the year by there, too. and and and then barber of the year, stylist of the year and all that stuff, right?

Well, you know, I won I won educator of the year at CT Barber Grammys three weeks ago and I won barber of the year educ educator of the year at Barbercon last weekend.

That's crazy. That's what I'm saying like

crazy. These are historic things that you know a lot of times barbers kind of try to keep things to the wraps because you know we feel like you may catch some hate online or some you know like envy but for the real ones you have to you have to state the blessings because there's people out here who need inspiration to be like yo this can be you this will be you this not can be you this will be you with a good attitude and a mindset of like yo I see that I can make I can make it to this level that this level even exists. Some of the people who who watch this who watch this podcast did not know that you just need to have that bread and be like, "Yo, what's up company?

" You know, betting on themselves. They don't know about, you know, negotiating, you know, negotiating to get into your stars deal. That's even a hack right there for you a lot of you guys cuz I I did the same thing. I was taught the same way by my OG's like, "Yo, you tell you tell that you tell that star, hey man, just put have me go with the company. " You know what I'm saying? "

So Susie Little Miss Susie,

you picked the wrong job. Suzy.

Susie, I know you've never gotten a haircut and your and your and your and your boyfriend Tyler gets a haircut every two months. But this haircut is going to last and be iconic for years to come. I.e. Why I am charging this just like you would charge for I don't get licensing on the music as the artist who who's playing behind the thing will get when they when this ad runs. I'm getting my money all up front. I don't get any residuals. So I got to make sure that you get give me what I need to get.

Hey, please please pay me or pay me no mind. That's it.

It's easy. It's very easy. It's very easy, man. Uh before I leave, man, I just want to again thank you, man, for your impact on the industry, the impact on the community, the impact on my my career as well. I see you and I admire you and I see what you're doing and I'm always like, "Yo, I got to step it up, you know, care from the curriculum to how you handle yourself on stage, how you handle yourself at these shows. " I'm excited that you're still my brother. You know what I'm saying? And and I'm glad and I'm glad that you know throughout these years, I mean, this is like probably like 10 plus years that I've known you now.

you know, um, and and actually personally like really rock and it's just like you haven't changed. You've only you've only elevated and I love that for you, man. And I appreciate you for your time. Uh, this has been an amazing episode as you guys can see.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Make sure they check out. You feel me?

Yeah. Popular Nobody. Come on, man. Go to his website. He going to send me some merch, y'all, cuz you know he knows I'm a popular nobody, too. So,

man, we all popular nobodies amongst our friends.

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